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ANNOUNCER: Next is a class on
the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, 7th
canto, 9th chapter, text number
37, given by His Divine Grace A.
C. Bhaktivedanta Swami
Prabhupāda, recorded on March
15th, 1976, in Māyāpur, India.

PUṢṬA KṚṢṆA: “My dear Lord,
when You appeared as Hayagrīva
with a head like that of a horse to
kill the two demons named
Madhu and Kaiṭabha, who were
full of the modes of passion and
ignorance, after killing the
demons You delivered the Vedic
knowledge to Lord Brahmā.
Therefore all the great saintly
persons accept Your forms as
transcendental, untinged by
material qualities.”


tasmai bhavān haya-śiras
tanuvaṁ hi bibhrad veda-druhāv
atibalau madhu-kaiṭabhākhyau
hatvānayac chruti-gaṇāṁś ca
rajas tamaś ca sattvaṁ tava
priyatamāṁ tanum āmananti

So spiritual kingdom is beyond
this material world made of three
modes of material nature, sattva-
rajas-tamaḥ. So when incarnation
of the Supreme Lord comes…
Yadā yadā hi dharmasya glānir
bhavati [Bg. 4.7] Kṛṣṇa has given
us. We are fallen down from the
spiritual kingdom to this material
world on account of desiring to
fulfill our material senses. But
Kṛṣṇa is so kind that He has given
us the Vedic literatures. Anādi
bahir mukha jīva kṛṣṇa bhuli gela.
This is the statement in the
Caitanya-caritāmṛta. Ataeva kṛṣṇa
veda purāṇa karilā. Because we
have forgotten Kṛṣṇa anadi…
Anadi means before the
beginning of this creation. The
beginning of this creation is
called ādi, beginning, but our
forgetfulness of Kṛṣṇa is anādi.
Anādi. Anādi bahir mukha. We
are working in this life, in this
material world, struggling for
existence to get happiness. That
is the aim of life. But because we
have forgotten Kṛṣṇa, we do not
know the source of happiness.
Ānandamayo ’bhyāsāt. The
ānandamaya-vigraha, sac-cid-
ānanda-vigraha [Bs. 5.1], we have
forgotten Kṛṣṇa. Still, we are
searching after ānanda,
blissfulness. This is our struggle
for existence. Manaḥ-
ṣaṣṭhānīndriyāṇi prakṛti-sthāni
karṣati [Bg. 15.7]. We are in this
prakṛti, in this material nature,
prakṛti-sthāni, and, being
dictated by the mind, making
plans to become happy, but that
is not possible. Manaḥ-
ṣaṣṭhānīndriyāṇi prakṛti-sthāni.
This is… Due to our forgetfulness,
we are struggling for existence to
get happiness, but because we
do not know what is the source
of happiness, it is called struggle
for existence. This is going on.

So this is going on not only in
this life, before this life also,
anādi, anādi. So once we get the
chance to understand what is the
problem of life, and this human
life is given a chance. By
evolution, by nature’s way,
8,400,000 species of life we are
coming through. Then the nature
has given one chance, this
human form of life. Now it is for
understanding what is our
position. Athāto brahma jijñāsā.
But if we do not take care of this
questioning… Ke āmi kene āmāya
jāre tāpa-traya. Sanātana
Gosvāmī placed this inquiry
before Caitanya Mahāprabhu. To
approach guru means to inquire
about himself, “What I am?” That
is intelligence. Sanātana Gosvāmī
was the minister. He was very
opulent. Tyaktvā tūrṇam aśeṣa-
maṇḍala-pati-śreṇīṁ sadā
tucchavat. But when he came to
his senses after meeting Caitanya
Mahāprabhu, he wanted to know,
“What I am?” This is real inquiry.
He could be very satisfied to get
answer himself that “I am
minister. I have got so big salary.
I get so much respect.” No, he
was not satisfied. He went to
guru, Caitanya Mahāprabhu. The
Vedic injunction is, tad-
vijñānārthaṁ sa gurum eva
abhigacchet [MU 1.2.12].
Everyone is conscious of the
struggle for existence, but they
are not serious enough that “Why
this struggle for existence?” That
“Why?” required. That is human
life. The dog is suffering. He is
hungry, he’s going to a place for
some food, and instead of food,
he’s getting a stroke by the stick.
He barks very… He’s
disappointed that “I wanted food,
but I got the stick.” (laughter) “I
wanted bread; I got stone.” This
is going on. This is going on. And
therefore, in the human society
also, they are also struggling and
making plans for economic
development so that instead of
stone, they can get bread. But
the struggle is going on. There is
no settlement. That is not
possible. That is not possible.
Either you go to this country or
that country, you accept this
“ism” or that “ism,” unless you
come to Kṛṣṇa, there is no
possibility of peace. That is
stated, very simple words, in the
Bhagavad-gītā, that how to stop
this struggle for existence.

bhoktāraṁ yajña-tapasāṁ sarva-
loka-maheśvaram suhṛdaṁ
sarva-bhūtānāṁ jñātvā māṁ
śāntim ṛcchati [Bg. 5.29]

So this is going on. As soon as
there is creation… Brahmā was
created and he was given the
Vedic knowledge. Tene brahma
hṛdā ādi-kavaye. We get it.
Brahmā was born. He was to
establish the kingdom of God or,
as Brahmā was born, the other
living entities also were in the
body of Garbhodakaśayī Viṣṇu.
They were also to take birth later
on. And before their birth,
Brahmā was instructed Vedic
knowledge. Vedic knowledge
means these bewildered living
entities struggling for existence
may get Vedic knowledge so that
they can revive their old, original
Kṛṣṇa consciousness. This is the
purpose of Vedic knowledge. In
the Bhagavad-gītā it is said,
vedaiś ca sarvair aham eva
vedyam [Bg. 15.15] The Vedic…
What is Vedic knowledge? Vedic
knowledge means to revive our
Kṛṣṇa consciousness. That is
Vedic knowledge. If you revive
your Kṛṣṇa consciousness, that is
the perfection of Vedic
knowledge. But if you read only
Vedas and perform formalities,
ritualistic ceremonies, but you do
not awaken your Kṛṣṇa
consciousness, that is useless
waste of time. That is stated in
the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam,

dharmaḥ svanuṣṭhitaḥ puṁsāṁ
viśvaksena-kathāsu yaḥ
notpādayed ratiṁ yadi śrama eva
hi kevalam [SB 1.2.8]

You may be a very religious
person—never mind you are
Hindu, Muslim or Christian or
anyone—or according to your
religious principles, ritualistic
ceremonies, you execute very
nicely. Svanuṣṭhitaḥ puṁsām. But
after doing all these things, if you
do not become God
consciousness, God conscious, or
you do not understand what is
God, then the Bhāgavata says
that it is simply waste of time.
Śrama eva hi kevalam.

So human life is meant for
understanding the Supreme, our
connection with the Supreme
Being. That is real human life.
Therefore the Vedas are there. So
as soon as Brahmā was born…
Because he is in charge of this
universe… There are innumerable
universes and innumerable
Brahmās also. Yasya prabhā
prabhavato jagad-aṇḍa koṭi [Bs.
5.40]. Yasyaika-niśvasita-kālam
athāvalambya jīvanti loma-vilajā
jagad-aṇḍa-nāthāḥ [Bs. 5.48] So
Brahmā is jagad-aṇḍa-nātha.
He’s the chief person within this
material world, in this universe.
So he is in charge; therefore he
was given the Vedic knowledge.
And he got the Vedic knowledge,
but at the same time, two
demons known as Madhu-
Kaiṭabha, they wanted to snatch
away, take away the Vedic
mantras from Brahmā. This is the
attempt from the very beginning.
The devotees following the
disciplic succession of Brahmā…
Just like we are. We belong to the
Brahma-sampradāya. Several
times I have explained. So our
original guru is Brahmā,
Svayambhū. Therefore he is one
of the great personality,
svayambhūr nāradaḥ śaṁbhuḥ
kapilaḥ kaumāro manuḥ [SB
6.3.20]. These are twelve
mahājanas, men of authority. So
Brahmā is man of authority, the
demigod, the supreme demigod,
the best of the demigods. So
these Madhu-Kaiṭabha, Madhu-
kaiṭabha, they took away. Rajas-
tamaḥ. Why? They were full of
rajas-tamas, and Brahmā is

So sattva-guṇa and rajas-tamaḥ.
This material world, there is three
qualities, so there is always
struggle. If you want to remain in
the sattva-guṇa, then the rajas-
tamo guṇa, they will give you
trouble. Rajas-tamo-bhāvaḥ. Tato
rajas-tamo-bhāvāḥ kāma-
lobhādayaś ca ye. So we are
trying to introduce this sattva-
guṇa, and above sattva-guṇa,
śuddha-sattva. This sattva-guṇa…
Just like sometimes we
experience that one person is
elevated to the brahminical
principle, sannyāsī principle, but
all of a sudden he falls down, he
becomes a demon. We have got
experience. He becomes demon.
Very high… So this material world
is so contaminated that even you
are on the sattva-guṇa, there is
chance of being contaminated by
the rajas-tamo guṇa. The
struggle is there. Therefore we
have to become very, very
careful. Or Kṛṣṇa will help. If you
want to remain in sattva-guṇa, in
purity, then Kṛṣṇa will help. Just
like here, as soon as Brahmā was
disturbed by the demons full of
rajo-guṇa and tamo-guṇa,
immediately the Lord came in
Hayagrīva-mūrti incarnation. That
is… Kṛṣṇa is also very much
anxious to give us… Kaunteya
pratijānīhi na me bhaktaḥ
pranaśyati. If you remain a pure
devotee, always surrendered to
Kṛṣṇa, you should know it very
well that Kṛṣṇa will give you
protection in any calamity. Don’t
be worried. Simply we must have
the faith. That is surrender.
Surrender means avaśya rakṣibe
kṛṣṇa, viśvāsa pālana. You must
be faithful that “I am engaged in
Kṛṣṇa’s service. I may go to hell
or heaven. It doesn’t matter. I am
going to serve Him. It is sure that
Kṛṣṇa will give me protection.” So
there should be no hesitation. If
somebody is ordered, “Go to hell
and preach Kṛṣṇa consciousness,”
he should remain faithful to
Kṛṣṇa, and Kṛṣṇa will give all
protection. This is the principle.
Kṛṣṇa’s business is yadā yadā hi
dharmasya glānir bhavati,
tadātmānaṁ sṛjāmi [Bg. 4.7],
paritrāṇāya sādhūnāṁ vināśāya
ca… [Bg. 4.8]. The sādhu… Sādhu
means Kṛṣṇa-bhakta, sādhu, not
this dress. If you are always
keeping Kṛṣṇa within yourself,
then you are sādhu. And you are
yogi also.

yoginām api sarveṣāṁ mad-gata
āntarātmanā śraddhāvān bhajate
yo māṁ sa me yuktatamo ma…
[Bg. 6.47]

These things are there always.
Man-manā bhava mad-bhakto
mad-yājī māṁ namaskuru [Bg.
18.65] So those who are always
keeping Kṛṣṇa within the heart,
they are sādhu. So paritrāṇāya
sādhūnām. They are sad… They
are sādhus. Sādhu means who
are always engaged in Kṛṣṇa’s
service, always thinking of Kṛṣṇa.

So here, as Brahmā was
protected from the great demons
Madhu-Kaiṭabha, Prahlāda
Mahārāja was protected from the
great demon Hiraṇyakaśipu.
There are many, many instances.
So the demons are always there.
They are always ready to disturb
devotees. That is going on. But a
devotee’s business is to revive
the Kṛṣṇa consciousness of the
conditioned soul. That is
devotee’s business. As Kṛṣṇa
comes personally to give them
some help, similarly, Kṛṣṇa’s
servants also, they take Kṛṣṇa’s
business and try to help these
fallen conditioned souls to revive
their original Kṛṣṇa

So here is the example, that
Brahmā was given the Vedic
knowledge. Tene brahma hṛdā
ādi-kavaye. Brahmā is ādi-kavi.
He’s the first learned man within
this universe. We do not follow
this nonsense Darwin’s theory.
Our beginning of this creation is
from the most learned man,
Brahmā, not from the monkey.
(laughter) We do not follow this
rascal philosophy. We do not
follow. So our beginning is Lord
Brahmā, a devotee of Kṛṣṇa,
empowered to spread Kṛṣṇa
consciousness, Vedic knowledge.
Why Vedas there? Anādi
bahirmukha jīva kṛṣṇa bhuli gela,
ataeva kṛṣṇa veda-purāṇa karilā.
So Veda-Purāṇa is required. Why
the Vedas are there for us? To
revive our Kṛṣṇa consciousness.
And the gist of the Vedas, the
śāstra, is Bhagavad-gītā, sarva-
śāstra vinijya (?). So if we read
Bhagavad-gītā carefully, spoken
by the Supreme Personality of
Godhead, and follow it according
to the direction of the Brahmā
and his disciplic succession, then
Kṛṣṇa will give you all protection
from the demons. There is no
doubt. That is Kṛṣṇa’s business.
He said, yadā yadā hi dharmasya
glānir bhavati bhārata [Bg. 4.7].
Dharmasya glāniḥ means
discrepancy in the matter of
understanding Vedas. That is
dharmasya glāniḥ.

We have read in the Sixth
Chapter, veda-vihitaṁ dharma:
“Dharma means which is
enjoined, which is ordered by the
Vedas.” Śruti. Caitanya… Our
Rūpa Gosvāmī said,

pañcarātriki-vidhiṁ vinā aikāntikī
harer bhaktir utpātāyaiva kal…
[BRS 1.2.101]

So we must follow śruti-smṛti-
purāṇādi-śāstra-vidhi. Kṛṣṇa
condemns such persons, rascals,
who do not accept this śāstra-
vidhi and manufacture
something. This rascal has
spoiled the whole world. No.
Śāstra-vidhi, the Vedic
knowledge. Anādi bahirmukha
jīva kṛṣṇa bhuli gela, ataeva kṛṣṇa
veda-purāṇa karilā. So we have
to take protection of the Vedic
knowledge, and that is
summarized, and Śrīmad-
Bhāgavatam is the ripened fruit
of Vedic knowledge. Nigama-
kalpa-taror galitaṁ phalaṁ idam
[SB 1.1.3]. Kalpa-taru, the tree…
You get a tree. You protect tree.
So this Vedic knowledge is called
kalpa-taru. Kalpa-taru means
whatever you want, you can get
from the tree. Here we have got
experience, you can get mango
from the mango tree, but a
kalpa-taru, you can get mango,
apple, pineapple, anything. That
is called kalpa-taru. So from the
Vedas you can get all kinds of
knowledge—material, spiritual,
anything. Therefore it is called
kalpa-taru. And the kalpa-taru…
A taru means tree, and the tree…
We nourish tree to get a nice
fruit. So this Bhāgavatam is the
fruit of the Vedic tree, kalpa-taru,
and it is ripened also, not
unripened. Unripened fruit you
cannot eat, but ripened, ripened
in the tree, mango, is very
palatable. So it is nigama-kalpa-
taror galitaṁ phalaṁ idam [SB

So if we read Śrīmad-
Bhāgavatam and Bhagavad-gītā,
these two literatures, then we get
all Vedic knowledge, and then we
can revive our Kṛṣṇa
consciousness. And to do this
business there is no difficulty.
Kṛṣṇa will give you all protection,
provided you remain, I mean to
say, adhere to the lotus feet of
Kṛṣṇa. Mām eva ye prapadyante
māyām etaṁ taranti te [Bg. 7.14].
The māyā will not touch you.
You’ll be happy.

Thank you very much.